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Imperial Entertainment TV and Movies => Star Wars Television => Topic started by: DarthHawk on March 09, 2022, 04:18:05 PM
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I'm not seeing a thread for this show so I hope it's ok to start one.
Here is the 1st. trailer.
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It was high time to start a thread for it. I thought it was awesome.
Seeing the Inquisitors was fantastic. It is gonna be awesome to see maybe Uncle Owen is a bit of a rabble rouser too.
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This has potential. 0/
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The only thing I saw that I didn't agree with is the shape of the Grand Inquisitors head.
The GI does not have a round head. The tats/adornments look correct but the head needs to be a lot more oval shaped to where it almost has a pointy top.
Other than that the trailer looks great.
I'm guessing that since Kenobi is due to premier late May this show will be a major attraction
for Celebration. But since Celebration runs from May 26th-29th it will be interesting to see how it will be incorporated.
However, with disnys history of disappointment I'm not gonna get overly excited until I se the series.
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Yeah, I figure there is a fine line between cgi and what they let go.
I guess the Inquisitor was one of em. I have seen a lot of hurt feelings about it on the Facebook. Just kinda makes me chuckle. Still guess if folks ain't whining they ain't healthy.
I am looking forward to it. I have it in my head to not let the outside noise influence me at all on this one. Not that I did too much on BOBF.
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Having watched the 2 episode premier of "Obi-Wan Kenobi", I am kind of conflicted.
While it is great seeing Ewan Mcgregor back in the role again, as well as the returning Prequel actors, and I absolutely LOVE little 10 year-old Leia's portrayal, the 2 episodes just seem "cheap" overall.
The wardrobe for the background citizens is incredible and really fits into the established aesthetics of the various social classes seen in previous installments of the franchise, but many of the featured and main characters look like amateur cosplayers. The Inquisitors look terrible, from makeup to fake plastic/fibreglass armor and crappy pleather uniforms. Things that should have been striking and impressive, like the dinosauroid bounty hunter looked unfinished (oversized velociraptor-ish head, neck and upper torso, but basically human everything else and no tail). In fact, the somewhat cool head but lackluster body seems to be the series' go-to choice for non-human characters.
The digital effects also go from beautifully rendered (mostly spacecraft) to shoddily composited (Eopie walking through the sand, etc.), sometimes in the same shot.
The plot kind of works. Seeing the monotony of Obi-Wan's life in exile is heartbreaking and Leia's rescue was (mostly) exciting, but the hackneyed, overused and tired "overly ambitious junior officer recklessly endangers mission" was just lazy writing. The false Jedi hustler was an interesting concept (that was done in a far superior manner in the old "Expanded Universe" that Disney keeps raping...I mean cherry picking), but the choice of actor just killed any chance it had of being a good or memorable addition to the story.
I still, mostly, enjoyed the 2 episodes and will watch the remaining ones, but I am not overly impressed as of yet. Hopefully it improves as it progresses.
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I hear you Dan. Feeling pretty much the same way.
It is new Star Wars so that is nice. I was kinda hoping Obi wouldn't have been as weak as he is. I guess learning the force isn't like riding a bicycle.
It will be interesting when we finally get to see Vader too.
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I'm a little late getting to this ball game since I wasn't able to see the first two episodes until Tuesday. I will forgo my usual long review and just give my basic thoughts.
As a Star Wars show it's pretty good.
I loved Little Leia. Her personality is spot on with what we will see from Princess Leia.
Some of the dialogue is very campy and makes me question the abilities of the writers to maintain the high level of quality we came to experience when George Lucas was steering the ship.
Having said that I will say that I liked the premise of the show and the direction it was taking for the 1st. two episodes. Now for the negatives.
Obi Wan working in a meat packing plant??? Total Bantha poodoo.
Obi Wan now a dejected, downtrodden, despondent, miserable and dispirited shell of his former self?? Horsehockey.
Once again the dips at dudsney attempt to totally destroy one of the strongest characters in the Star Wars saga.
I will end with this observation on episode 3. Take the wayback machine back to 1977. Darth Vader says to Obi Wan Kenobi: "when I left you I was but the learner. Now I am the master."
Obviously Vader is no longer "the learner." He is now a master of the dark side.
Given this revelation how can Vader and Obi Wan possibly meet in this time line much less have a lightsaber battle??????
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Yeah Ron, I have to admit I am not liking this new version of Obi. Matter of fact me and my daughter are watching the prequels just so I can show her how tough Obi was even when he was still a Padawan Learner. I don't see him being so lost and feeble now. Not one bit.
I know they are trying to show us the side of Obi that is human, but man I want the hero Jedi I remember as a kid and from the prequels.
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Two things Tamer.
1. I'm still waiting for someone to tell me how this Obi Wan-Vader encounter fits into the original timeline.
2. You get to watch Star Wars with your daughter. I am so envious.
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Yeah Ron, I have to admit I am not liking this new version of Obi. Matter of fact me and my daughter are watching the prequels just so I can show her how tough Obi was even when he was still a Padawan Learner. I don't see him being so lost and feeble now. Not one bit.
I know they are trying to show us the side of Obi that is human, but man I want the hero Jedi I remember as a kid and from the prequels.
Agree 100 percent. This doesn’t feel like Obi Wan to me. Some trauma sure. Broken, no. He was a hero and one of the best masters ever. I don’t think he would act like this. Plus agree on the questionable continuity
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I am thinking they just need to get Favereaux and Filoni on this. Sometimes I wonder if the folks who are writing these new shows even have watched the series and read any of the books on the characters they are writing for?
I know its Disney's baby now and they can do what they want, but cmon!
I guess I will get labled a hater, but man I am having a hard time with him in his current incarnation.
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I watched the first 3 episodes yesterday.
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I watched the first 3 episodes yesterday.
And?????
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And?????
It's always nice to see more details of Tatooine.
Seeing how they interpret Alderaan is also nice.
Little Leia is portrayed really well by this young actress in my opinion.
Other than that I cannot say anything nice about this show. Di$ney, KK and everyone in charge just don't understand Star Wars. I'm not a fan of any agenda theories, but it became obvious that they like to portray male characters weak and female ones strong. And that's okay if it wasn't completely contradicting a character as we had known him before - like Obi-Wan and Boba Fett.
I think Book of Boba Fett and Obi-Wan Kenobi are a complete disaster and neither deserve both brilliant actors nor do their beloved characters justice.
To me the biggest and most fundamental mistake of the third episode is the confrontation between Darth Vader and Obi-Wan before A New Hope. Of course it's cool to see them fight - to me every lightsaber fight is a win, but the dialogue, overall emotion and location was poorly executed.
George Lucas' work shines brighter than ever before in contrast to that trash by Disney.
I wish I could say anything more nice about the show, but I can't so I decided to remain silent.
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Philipp, I so understand what you are saying. I don't have much good to say so I am just keeping my mouth shut. I really am not a hater at all, but man I have been seeing folks lay that hate for anyone that says anything bad about this show; even just trying to have constructive criticism.
I also agree there are some bright spots, but the over glaring thing for me is how weak they have made Obi-Wan and his subsequent ineptness. I just can't stand what they are doing to him.
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Can't disagree with everything that has been said so far.
I will add that some of the CGI is very amateurish. Especially when Bail is riding through the streets of Alderon in his speeder.
Alderon is portrayed as a very beautiful planet but the background during the speeder scene looks horribly fake. It's almost as if a couple of stage hands had paintings/murals that were on rollers and the scenery was slowing moving past the speeder.
Plus I thought the cityscapes looked very much like Minbar from Babylon 5.
I half expected the Shadows to be Vader's personal bodyguards and the Vorlons to come to Obi Wan's rescue.
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LOL Ron! I gotta wonder if they have hampered the cgi budget with this one? When is the Mandalorian coming back?
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I think my biggest gripe about this show is the gripe I had about the Book of Boba Fett.
For a show about Kenobi, the focus does not seem to be about Kenobi. And the idiotic "toxic fandom" backlash yet again is annoying.
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Episode 4 was fun to watch even if it was extremely predictable and I was 10 minutes ahead of the story line for the entire show.
Upsides for me were, well, um, let's see, give me a minute.
Ok, lots of action and OWK seems to begin the return to his former self. Which is where he should have been in episode 1.
Downsides for me were, can I say to many to list? A couple of the biggies are the total and complete lack of security at Casa Inquisitorious and when 3rd. sister is attempting to probe Leia's mind all she can come up with is "you are strong?" Why wasn't she able to detect Leia's genetic connection with the force?
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Well, it was nice to see Obi getting a bit back in touch with his force powers. For the life of me I still have a hard time with this as he should be stronger with the force not weaker as he should have been doing Yoda's training to be conversing with Qui Gon. I mean I remember that from ROTS right? It was also awesome seeing the snowspeeders, but again for an Imperial base with a bunch of TIES ( love those racks they are in btw) it is hard to understand how two T-47s were able to provide air cover. Still, it was better.
And we don't get the Mandalorian till February of 2023! :'(
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And we don't get the Mandalorian till February of 2023! :'(
Was the show delayed?! :o
I played tennis with a friend a couple weeks ago and was surprised that I could still play well after a 10 year hiatus! Let Ben use the Force, Di$$ney!
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Philipp I am not sure that was just a timeline photo of all the new stuff coming out I saw. Probably on FB.
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Hmmmmmmm. No comments or critiques on the last episode. Interesting.
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I have a feeling most are either not watching or are just "meh" like I am.
I mean, I watch it, it is new Star Wars, but I won't be upset if I hear they are not doing another season.
This last episode I thought it was hilarious they had a really old Anakin and Obi fighting and it was supposed to have been during his padawan years. Cmon man.
I am also having a hard time never seeing TIEs deployed or any type of air superiority. I mean some ragtag ship holding off a Star Destroyer? Cmon again.
I know I need to try not hating on this so much, but it has so many holes and really seems to be such a disservice to both the OT and the prequels. I bet George is just shaking his head.
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Wow, no comments on the finale yet?
This, to me, was the best episode. And it was consistent with the timeline as I understand it, something they didn't seem to care about till this last episode.
I loved the Vader fight and was glad to see Obi got his mojo back. I had some problems with how that fight was set up (I mean the ship he got had hyperdrive why not grab Leia and just hyper out of there?) and it seemed the build up to it was drawn out, but he fight was good and I was glad to see a tough Obi. I also found the Hayden/Jones voice mingling pretty cool too.
Now the whole Reva on Tatooine thing I thought was bad. I mean lets great ready for Reva, but then they weren't ready? And then Owen misses on his first shot? I would have loved for them to have found out Reva was coming and then them go out into the sands and pit Reva vs some Tuskens. Now that would have been cool and then Beru just comes up and shoots her in the back at the end after she took care of the Tuskens. I could have even seen them have a cameo there of Ahsoka or good ole Mac Windu showing up to save the day a bit before Obi gets back. There was a lot of potential missed there. So I didn't like that part of the finale.
It was cool to see Qui Gon. They let him be true to his original identity. I liked that even though he didn't have many lines. Kinda wished Yoda had shown up and Qui Gon would have been beside him in his ghosty way, but it was ok.
About the only thing I am having a hard time with is the fact that Obi got so close to Leia and even Luke at the end. I mean, they didn't seem to know anything about him in A New Hope. I mean Leia sure wouldn't have forgotten an Obi that rescued her and given him that type of R2 message the way she did, but maybe I am being too critical.
At least this review wasn't altogether bad right?! I feel like I need to defend myself if I say something bad about it. I guess I could say I would be fine either way with this one if they have a new season or let it stand. Kinda wish they would spend their budget on new Mandalorian if I had any say. I sure miss that show.
Anyhow that is it for me for now. I am anxious to see what others thought of it.
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This episode was by far the best of the entire series. It was the most Star Wars like of all of them.
No complaints from me on this one.
The Obi Wan vs Vader battle, outstanding.
The Reva redemption, perfect.
Obi Wan's and Princess Leia's final scene, priceless.
I was left with only one question. This is the 2nd. time Obi Wan had the opportunity to end Vader's life.
So why didn't Obi Wan take advantage of the situation and "destroy" Vader once and for all???
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Yeah, I guess Obi was still hoping his friend would come back to him.
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Hmmmmmmm. No comments or critiques on the last episode. Interesting.
I'm still falling in disappointment of how bad the show turned out to be.
They lost me after the third episode. And instead of binge watching the other three episodes, enjoy reviews on YouTube much more. Like this one:
Honest Trailers | Obi-Wan Kenobi by Screen Junkies (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DblSA-T_C-I)
Di$ney and all their uncreative directors, especially KK remind me of some billionaire who bought a unique collection of vintage cars just crash each one of them against a wall at maximum speed every day.
They just ruin every character one by one because they don't understand how to tread this franchise. It would hurt if I still cared that much. I don't care anymore. This is not my Star Wars.
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Yeah, I have already decided I am gonna view the characters the way they were originally shown to me.
I am also thinking we may never get a new movie again, just new shows on Disney Plus.
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Yeah, I have already decided I am gonna view the characters the way they were originally shown to me.
I am also thinking we may never get a new movie again, just new shows on Disney Plus.
I'm with you Tamer.
I've been a Star Wars enthusiast since 1977. The OT gave me the characters as they were meant to be via the vision of George Lucas.
If the characters are going to be reduced to pathetic, feeble, miserable, pitiful, wretches of their former selves then I have to see it from George.
Only then will I accept their fall from grace.
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Yet another disconnect Hasbro has with the line.
I think Disney and Hasbro and Lucasfilm all need some type of Fan Relations input as they are just so missing out on what folks want.
I guess we get to see if Bad Batch gets to be bad fairly soon.
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Exactly, Shawn. We just talked about that exact topic on the live chat of Can't Kill Chewie on YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/c/CANTKILLCHEWIE).
It seems that Disney's new Lucasfilm is just so secretive towards their licensees that they just won't tell them about new IP before everyone else sees it. It's crazy and actually hurts Hasbro's business in the first place. I think it's completely mental to be so serious about keeping upcoming stuff dead secret.
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Especially when there are so many outlets out there that really there is no way for things to really stay secret anymore, this to the point of negatively impacting the entire franchise.
But thats just my opinion and doesn't go very far! LOL!
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Not only has this show ruined my favorite character of Star Wars, but they also changed the entire lore of the Skywalker Saga "di$ney officially" to the absolute worst at least for me.
This meme shared by vaders_fortress on instagram sums it all up:
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Source: vaders_fortress on Instagram
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Great meme that fits todays political world and a whole bunch of kids in my classroom.
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Great meme that fits todays political world and a whole bunch of kids in my classroom.
Man, first thing I thought when I read that meme!
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The Kenobo show was hardly brought up on Celebration Europe. Looking back at the show of my favorite PT character, I'm glad that at least some people could boost their career on YouTube.
Obi-Wan Kenobi Sucked | Special Edition by The Movie Cynic (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLO1rdFhxdk)
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I enjoyed watching this more than I intended to. Happy Easter everyone!