The Imperial Shipyards
Imperial Creative Engineering => Dioramas => Topic started by: Darth Revenge on June 23, 2024, 04:57:33 AM
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Here's the global project for my Death Star diorama (both ANH & ROTJ)
I don't know yet if I try full home made or continue with Frank Dioro's decals I bought on Etsy .
Hangar Bay with BMF is the main part with the iconic Obi-Wan/Darth Vader duel from ANH.
The ground level will be the Emperor's arrival from ROTJ.
Detention blocks under the Duel, the Red Control Room above the duel.
On the shelves, conference room and a try of Emperor Throne Room (ROTJ).
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Even more ambitious than Jabba's Palace, I'm thinking. Two big dioramas at the same time...Wow.
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When a diorama make me crazy, I "jump" to another :)
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Some updates.
Not very movie accurate, but I don't care. I use Frank's decals (with a cheap foamcore, not the best, and single paper instead of sticker).
Blastdoor is WIP, door can be close/open
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This is a dream project here! Can you tell us what the approximate dimensions of this setup will be?
The walls look great! Are those prints from NiubNiub aka Frank Diorios Workshop?
I can't wait to see those hallways filled up with Stormtroopers and maybe the new princess Leia!
Thanks for keeping us updated even daily! This is fun!
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The decals look good to me. While I appreciate "screen accurate", I've never been too uptight about it. The toys are a space for imagination after all. Sometimes I wind up liking things that aren't "screen accurate" better (I have always loved my blue Snaggletooth - he got a lot of play time when I was a little boy)
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I first used some olds decals from NNU on a backup CD, but too many where missing, so I bought the new version on Frank's Etsy shop.
Colors are differents, but printing is easier.
The DS ANH main level available space is 180*72 cm. Maybe 240*72 max.
For the DS ROTJ Emperor's arrival level (under the ANH level), 240*60,height 85 cm for the shuttle/tie hanging system.
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This is a presence I haven't felt since......
Great to see you back. Man, your shelves just look fun.
Off to the front pages.
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A lot of Frank's Diorama Workshop printed on sticker sheets instead standard paper.
Glue stick steel needed, not for glue, but the reverse. It allow to move stickers on the foamcore. DH
I try to cover the decal with a layer of self-adhesive transparency because I saw that flies had pooped on a section of wall. ()rr ()rr ()rr
Washing paper is not a good idea.
it shines a little too much and I hope the plastic won't yellow with UV rays.
Let me know what is your feeling about this or if you have already tried something like this.
The central part is covered with the transparent layer
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Fine, some days without working. After several days on Jabba, I need to do something else (as planned when I started the 2 project together).
I've refined a little bit the way I hope to arrange the different parts of the DS. I had forgotten the unmissable scene of the trash compactor.
So I'm going to shift the Vader/obi-Wan duel part to the center of the main platform. This will leave less room for the Falcon, but you don't get anything for nothing.
I'll have to modify the Duel part a bit. The 19 cm high parts given by Frank in his blueprints and decals will be replaced by 15 cm parts, the "standard" size of the DS panels. Of course, I would also have to adjust the height of the walls of the trash compactor in order to be able to place the POTF based detention blocks above and keep the same level for the adjoining floors.
I hope to keep Detention blocks and Red control Room at the same level. The briefing room will be between the duel level and the Red control room.
If all goes according to plan, Emperor Throne room will overlook all of this
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Here's the shot of the idea.
Using POTF Detention block with his sewer door above the compactor makes this more fun >:D.
I spent a lot of time on trying different ways to make this DS Dio.
According to Starchaser, using Frank's decals bring a certain movie accuracy harder to obtain with the way I made more than a decade ago.
I did an Archway (15 cm high) instead of the Frank's 19 cm high wall.
Full foamcore with decals, some trouble with cutting, of course.
I apply patches on the angles, my foamcore is really bad, the foam is no good, making holes and craps even with new blades.
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According to myself (it's very important for me >:D), some work on the DS.
First, I change dimension of the Obi/Vader area. The entire size is now 60cm * 42cm, with an extra area behind of 27 cm (needed for Blastdoor doors and a rear small hallway behind the curve hallway)
A change in main Obi/Vader room is the loss of 6 cm, a standard DS panel.
I change position of the rear small door at the end of the curve, and replace it with a "real" door, who gives access to the rear hallway.
I remove the left part of the curve hallway for giving the view inside this.
I will play with some half panels and others non-movie accurate things for finish this part.
I also add a test small round wall panel.
The last shot is form where the falcon must be in the shelves.
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Here I am with some new updates.
First, I refined my measurements in order to get pretty much what I wanted (in fact I want to move and have a real dedicated room, not a closet;) but it's much more expensive :) )
I played with archway between Duel and curved hallway. I complete this wall with a small round wall as a bonus.
Panels behind and next to the trash compactor are less or more defined. I make a junction between rear curved hallway and rear trash compactor.
Compactor walls are planned to be 2 levels high. I want to keep the compactor door opened.
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Looks really good. You do a good job with the details.
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Thx :)
Details are from Dioramas Workshop ;)
I only play with decals I bought and printed.
The main job is sharpening blades, foamcore eats blades, 3 or 4 cuts, and sharpening again and again. Even with the low quality material I have.
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Title of this post is from a french humorist, it seems appropriate to me ;D
Both rear hallways are done.
Time to work on this famous trash compactor.
I'll tri to do this without Frank's decals. Insulated foam called Depron is used (same as some parts of Jabba's Palace, material used for 99% of the construction of the 2010s). It's very less expensive than foamcore.
It requires a layer of primer before sticking anything on it, except itself or painting. Hot glue can create damage, and contact glue is just not possible to use, the depron melts.
The visible height is not defined, the whole will certainly be lower, to align with the rest. It will all depend on the height of the ceilings I would make to include a minimum of lighting.
Enjoy the pix as I enjoy to do this >:D
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Look better with some door details.
I need to modify it, a light place is missing on the door.
I made a mistake on drawing the lines, but I don't care, the cuts are done and glued, I dont want to restart an entire wall.
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I get that! Sometimes good enough is really good enough. I think this is shaping up nicely.
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And the was light.
Using an old forgotten Led Strip with 24v supply, a garbage cardboard, one transfert sheet, a piece of glossy vinyl I kept from 2010's dioramas, and of course foamcore for this ceiling test.
Unlike Frank, I don't make the "snake led". I simply turn the strip on the outer edge.
I think I may use black cardboard sheets for the ceiling visible face.
Total height of the ceiling with light is 2.5 / 2.6 cm.
Add 0.5 cm for the floor, and total height of a standard level is 18 cm.
As I'm lucky for this time, the max height of the Detention block playset I want to use is 14,9 cm. It's a good new, all the levels can have the same height.
Coming back to the ceiling, I think the lighting is sufficient, knowing that the photos were taken with the lights in the showroom on.
What do you think about this ? Please don't be afraid of critics/suggestions, we are all here because we strive to excel DH
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Let it shine a little more !
Putting the vinyl on the ground was a real pain, but it's done.
Why make dioramas and not have a little fun with the figurines?
It's time to get out the planned miniatures, and send poor Bom Vimdin to be used for other tests.
It's also time to start seriously this f*****g blastdoor.
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Shiny vinyl floor added, trash compactor resized in height, and adding a wall panel next to the large blastdoor who is now in a distinct part. I needed to do this for easier making of the door first, and second, I can add pipes part above and high wall panels.
Not enough length of Led strip for this first level, of course. Order done.
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No, no, open it !
Today, the objective was to think about a good way for doing blastdoor with abilities to open/close as simple as possible.
The inside separators would act as guide for the doors and made them in one cut instead glueing 2 pieces together verticaly as Frank do and show us in his making-off, I use only one with a thickness of 1 cm. Less foamcore necessary, less excess cut.
I need to find to good angle for doors edges. I'm not 100% happy with the result, but it can do the job. So I won't waste time about it.
The whole blastdoor part is 6cm width, 51 cm long. 15 cm as usual.
The two 12cm wall panels "Blastdoor right and left" will contain the doors in the open position. Unfortunately, it would take more than 12 cm on each side, 15 would have been better, but I don't want to shift the rest of the construction to gain on the position of the doors open.
The pix are only half build door, enough for tests.
It seems that I reach my objective, and can now build the definitive version and complete the Obi/vader duel part.
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Second blastdoor face done, I began to put the decals details on the first one.
One door has now decals, need to do the 2 others.
Using Frank's decals again, print 6 closed doors (3 front, 3 rear).
Cutting them, and put them on the doors.
I planned to let the door without decals, that's why I used more expensive black foamcore. It was ugly.
Tried to paint, difference of color makes my eyes bleeding.
1st pix shows how I re-use excess from the blastdoor cut and don't have to take another sheet of foamcore.
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It will look like this once closed.
I can't take a shot on opened position now, all the doors must be complete before be glued together and have enough stability.
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Doors does now have their decals, and are glued together.
Let's have a look on this...
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Brilliant! C'est tres bon!
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The door is almost finished, a few dots of glue, the stickers on the edge and that's it.
The LED strip has arrived, and so has the black cardboard. New try with these leds, it's dazzling (really).
The photo is taken at about 4:10 p.m. (west oriented room), shutters open, and all available lighting on.
I would have no choice but to use the dimmer, otherwise at night the rendering will be much too strong.
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"Curved Hallway" and Blastdoor rooms enlighted :)
Some mistakes on ceiling cuts, too late to do something on this :( Visible only if you take care about, so my opinion is : don't bother >:D
First layers off paint in the trash compactor
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No big updates today, I was busy...
Second layer of paint yesterday on the trash compactor, some weathering this morning (I really need to enhance my painting skills)
I had the pleasant surprise of having Frank Dioro's visit on my FB, and he left an encouraging comment. It's good for my ego ;) DH DH
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That looks really good. The weathering is great.
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Some new shots...
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Next level planned with pre-own decals from Dioramas Workshop. would be not movie accurate at all, but I don't care.
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Some cutting done.
I throw some figures in this part for scale.
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Looking great! Is this foam board? Thanks for the reference! Cutting panels for a round wall is brilliant!
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Foamcore as usual for gluing Frank Diorio's decals.
This room will be above the Duel
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Thanks D.R.! Foamcore...that sounds like my favorite music genre.
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That is shaping up very well! The segmented wall looks really good.
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Some decals glued.
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Update
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That's all for today...
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Wow - that's nice! Great job so far.
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Thanks ;)
Today working a little bit on the table, and replace some decals for unifying design (I saw the mistakes when chatting with Frank Dioro on YT).
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Shiny floor added
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Trying to post an image, not bigger or larger as usual, doesn't work. Never mind.