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Re: The Mandalorian: Gina Carano no longer employed by Disney as Cara Dune
« Reply #45 on: February 13, 2021, 03:55:51 AM »
Thank you so much for this sophisticated and deliberate explanation, JD! I knew I could rely on our smart community on here being capable of an elaborate discussion without getting messy.
Yesterday, I came from a completely different direction. But now that I read your reply and gathered more information about it, I actually agree with you and think Disney made a reasonable choice after they've talked to her and/or her agents. It's still sad that this successful show gets trouble.
I think Gina Carano does not have to apologize because I still think her last instagram post was questionable, but not offensive. It would still be nice if she made a statement herself. It's always easy talking about people instead of talking to them. Well, she thanked her fans and supporters. I'm still a fan and defend at least her last controversial post, but I can also see the reasons why Disney pulled the consequences and fired her.

I find it sad to see her character go. To me Cara Dune was one of the best characters of the show. Besides I think her character received an action figure which probably has the BEST likeness a female action figure in 3.75" has ever received by Hasbro! Hands down.

Thank you so much for your reply, JDeck.
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Re: The Mandalorian: Gina Carano no longer employed by Disney as Cara Dune
« Reply #46 on: February 13, 2021, 07:19:28 AM »
Yeah her character was cool. I would have liked to have seen her in Rangers of the new Republic or something like that. But there are plenty of cool characters, and potentially new characters to come. I don't think she was going to be that important in the next couple seasons of mandalorian anyway to be honest.

   Evidently she's doing something with Ben Shapiro, and Ted Cruz is adamantly defending her and criticizing Disney. They're making her a martyr for discrimination of conservatives. Which I think is a mistake. A few reasons. One her posts are on the far right fringes. I consider myself conservative, however I don't think Covid is a liberal conspiracy.  I wouldn't defend that idea. Second I considered Cruz to be somewhat of a free market conservative, however damning Disney for making their own choice after her choices negatively affected them is hypocritical.  Thirdly, she was shitposting. She wasn't defending her viewpoints in a discussion, she was posting idiotic memes to get a rise out of people. When she got called out, she either denied it or doubled down.  Fourthly she was warned and on top of it all promised to stop. If she was fired for not agreeing to stop it would be another story, but that's not the case. She can't be trusted. Plain and simple.

I don't think she should apologize, because you shouldn't apologize for your ideas. Nor should you apologize for something you're not sorry for. Disney doesn't give a crap what people post, until it affects them. Same thing if you had a troublemaker friend, they can do what they want until their action affect you, then you break ties. If you're smart. But that's all I have to say. To bad,, but she did it to herself.

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Re: The Mandalorian: Gina Carano no longer employed by Disney as Cara Dune
« Reply #47 on: February 13, 2021, 08:06:54 AM »
I think the biggest thing I am taking away from this is the fact that your employer has a right to not have to deal with the fallout of you flaming on the internet. I think she has been warned multiple times about it and she still wouldn't listen. Clear and present insubordination. Disney did not want politics tied to their show; I get it. They warned her, she didn't listen. I get it. Its such a shame we will loose out on what would have probably been a good show. I could also see her getting better as an actress this current season too.

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Re: The Mandalorian: Gina Carano no longer employed by Disney as Cara Dune
« Reply #48 on: February 13, 2021, 12:05:23 PM »
I find it funny Disney hasn't fired a lot of their employees who have said far worse things. Specifically the one guy who said children should be thrown into a wood chipper with an illustrated graphic.
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Re: The Mandalorian: Gina Carano no longer employed by Disney as Cara Dune
« Reply #49 on: February 13, 2021, 02:57:41 PM »
The difference is Disney probably isn't even aware. Like I always say, the squeaky wheel gets tbe grease.  I'm not even on twitter but #FireGinaCarano was in my google news feed at least once a week, until I hit the not interested in Gina Carano button. So if I'm aware of it, then Disney is. In fact I defended her, saying it was wrong for them to fire her over stupid memes. They don't monitor peoples social media accounts  look at James Gunn, he posted something ten years ago and got fired on the spot, with no warnings. Of course a year later they hired him back, probably because he stopped posting crazy shit. Gina Carano was given fair warning.
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Re: The Mandalorian: Gina Carano no longer employed by Disney as Cara Dune
« Reply #50 on: February 14, 2021, 06:59:17 AM »
This has really garnered a lot of postings on our Facebook Page. I have seen everything from one view to the polar opposite and a lot of in between.

I did read a comment where they were wondering how this was customizing and you know; I couldn't fault their logic. Still I would be a liar if I said I wasn't wondering how people were perceiving this non renewal of her contract.

I guess my thing is people in high profile jobs have a different burden of social media and PR posting in general than we do. I know it is written in their contracts and I agree with JDeck that she was warned several times. I just think Disney was just tired of the negative press period. I don't think they cared on whit about her political views, conservatism, or her life in general. They just didn't want it affecting their baby; the Mandalorian. When it did they protected their investment. What do I hear all the time? Its just business.

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Re: The Mandalorian: Gina Carano no longer employed by Disney as Cara Dune
« Reply #51 on: February 14, 2021, 03:20:23 PM »
The problem with the knee jerk reaction is that they are catering to the Twitter mobs with the loudest voice but the least amount of money in the game.

The Twitter mob doesn't invest in merchandise, visit the parks, or subscribe to Disney plus.

In fact, they would pirate the Mandalorian, not pay for it. Because that violates the established rules and policies set up by the echo chamber they permeate themselves with.

Word on the street is this whole cluster has lost a lot of subs over her firing. We shall see.
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Re: The Mandalorian: Gina Carano no longer employed by Disney as Cara Dune
« Reply #52 on: February 15, 2021, 02:48:08 AM »
How is the twitter mob any different from the fandom menace trying to get Kathleen Kennedy fired for her "feminist adgenda"? 

They boycott when they don't make the movies they like, now they boycott something they actually like? They're just sabotaging The Mandalorian, or any future projects. Talk about double standards.

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Re: The Mandalorian: Gina Carano no longer employed by Disney as Cara Dune
« Reply #53 on: February 16, 2021, 01:48:57 PM »
 Simple. The blue checkmark weirdos retweet for social status points and clout without ever investing a penny in the franchise they are so militant about. While the other side isn't much better in rocking the boat, at least they buy products.

I'm not on the side of abandoning the Mandalorian, but I am not on the side of a company who doesn't issue punishment for the same kind of offenses. Especially when both went viral. They knowingly and deliberately chose a side. There is no impartiality.

Therein lies the problem.

I get they are a private company and can basically do whatever they want, but they risk that at the people who make them money.

No amount of retweets will pay the bills and keep the lights on. Only money and investment will. And considering the amount of unsold and piled up sequel trilogy merchandise that ended up at 4th tier retailers while TCW/Prequels/OT generally sells well...

I think we know the costs of backing a flawed product are. Especially when you spit in the face of the entire group of fans. The lamestream articles that have blackwashed Star Wars Fandom (all groups) with a wide stroke of the brush does them no favors.

Retroblasting pretty much hits the nail on the head.

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Re: The Mandalorian: A Game Changer for the Cinematic Industry
« Reply #54 on: November 12, 2021, 12:58:14 AM »
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Re: The Mandalorian: A Game Changer for the Cinematic Industry
« Reply #55 on: November 12, 2021, 03:40:24 AM »
Oh I gotta take some time to watch this today. Thanks for sharing it.

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Re: The Mandalorian: A Game Changer for the Cinematic Industry
« Reply #56 on: September 12, 2022, 11:23:50 AM »
The new trailer shows Mando dude being asked if he has ever taken off his helmet. His reply must have been in the affirmative because the next scene shows him being told that he is no longer Mandalorian.

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Re: The Mandalorian: A Game Changer for the Cinematic Industry
« Reply #57 on: February 06, 2023, 03:01:30 AM »
Tamer: I hope you did, it's well worth watching. So is the next video I'm about to share in a sec. March where are you?

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Re: The Mandalorian: A Game Changer for the Cinematic Industry
« Reply #58 on: February 06, 2023, 03:57:26 AM »
Yeah, I am watching the Last of Us and Pedro is great in that one too.

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Re: The Mandalorian: A Game Changer for the Cinematic Industry
« Reply #59 on: February 27, 2023, 03:27:00 AM »
I'm sitting here watching Willow. A friend of mine borrowed me his DVD. I can find many elements from George like the camera perspective and props.
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