Topic: [SPOILERS BEWARE!!!!] The Mandalorian [Discussion Thread]

[RC-1136]

Well I echo your questions about the dark saber. I mean she was able to easily wield it. I think I remember seeing him put it back on when he was sorta getting dressed after she rescued him. I am not sure it can be relinquinshed other than direct combat though. I am a little fuzzy with this dark saber thing. Good question though. I think we can all see she gets it back. I am not sure Djinn is ready to lead the whole thing yet?

We have to remember a simple fact about the Darksaber that's been overlooked from Rebels...

This is not just a weapon. It's a cultural artifact. It's a symbol capable of uniting ALL mandalorians under one banner. It was wielded by an ancient Vizsla relative - the first and only Mandalorian EVER inducted into the Jedi Order - Tarre Vizsla.

It more or less chooses who wields it and it can only be won thru combat. Sabine's struggles when sparring with Ezra and being taught by Kanan Jarrus (Caleb Dume) and Fenn Rau.

If you handle it unwieldy (much like Mando did when fighting the mutant creatures - Alamites) it's the same as when Sabine was weilding the Darksaber during her struggles. It's known to be "heavy." As one connects with the blade, it becomes "lighter."

Kyber crystals are somewhat semi-sentient. They choose and bond with the Jedi who find the crystals......you experience this first-hand in Star Wars Jedi Fallen Order:

Mando seemed to struggle using it where Bo Katan did not. Which begs another question - does the blade recognize former wielders? Based on how well Bo Katan utilized the weapon during this fight, I would argue that it does. I think there is strong evidence in the canon to support my assertion with lightsabers/kyber crystals choosing their wielders. From the OT, Clone Wars, Rebels, Sequels, etc. 

We also got our very first LIVE ACTION appearance of the Mandalorian gauntlet shield. Mega cool!

I guess I've done much more watching and re-watching of all of this than I care to admit.

[DarthHawk]

Great info RC-1136. You pointed out a number of components of owning and wielding
the darksaber that I didn't recognize.

So, what did we learn from this episode?
Darksaber ownership requirements?
A real Mythasaur actually exists?
Mando doesn't have a good awareness of his surroundings when in a dank dark cave?
Thankfully Mando has Grogu as his backup.
Bo Katan has stronger feelings for DD than she was willing to profess?
Bo Katan agonizes over the fall and ruination of Mandalore?
When the final battle unfolds and all of the Mandalorians scattered across the galaxy unite
to exact revenge against the empire will Mando emulate Boba Fett and ride to the rescue on
the Mythasaur?
Time will tell.

Oh, I almost forgot, Mandalorian jetpacks must have an extremely impermeable seal to be able
to operate under water.

[Tamer]

Wow, thanks for the Darksaber info, that is a great resource right there. Makes me wonder if Sabine will show up for a cameo or something. Still, Djinn needs to get a handle on it.

And Ron I thought the same thing about the jet packs under water. I mean how would that work really. Wouldn't the flame superheat the water and cause things other than propulsion? Still, loved the episode. I can be willing to forgive so much with this series. And I agree Djinn needs to not get "weakened" this season.

[RC-1136]

Great info RC-1136. You pointed out a number of components of owning and wielding
the darksaber that I didn't recognize.

So, what did we learn from this episode?
Darksaber ownership requirements?
A real Mythasaur actually exists?
Mando doesn't have a good awareness of his surroundings when in a dank dark cave?
Thankfully Mando has Grogu as his backup.
Bo Katan has stronger feelings for DD than she was willing to profess?
Bo Katan agonizes over the fall and ruination of Mandalore?
When the final battle unfolds and all of the Mandalorians scattered across the galaxy unite
to exact revenge against the empire will Mando emulate Boba Fett and ride to the rescue on
the Mythasaur?
Time will tell.

Oh, I almost forgot, Mandalorian jetpacks must have an extremely impermeable seal to be able
to operate under water.

I think Bo Katan has a lot of guilt and anger towards herself due to the Night of A Thousand Tears (Seige/sacking/glassing of Mandalore). Mandalore fell during her rule and Moff Gideon took the weapon from her (we still need details on how these events actually transpired - I do not believe its been shown yet).

I don't think Bo Katan really "likes" mando. I get jealous vibes from her. She sees him as a rival, but respects him (to a degree) as a Mandalorian.

She views Mando as an extremist, a "child of the watch" (Death Watch), which is extremely hypocritical given that she was also a member of Death Watch and had a relationship with Pre Vizsla.

It would seem Mythosaur confirmed. That beast must have been down there, undiscovered, for thousands of years. It dates back to the First Mandalore, who was a Taung warrior, whom species were the first inhabitants of Coruscant. They fled to Mandalore (forming what would be the first Mandalorians - renaming their species as such after). This took place in roughly 7,000 B.B.Y.

 It's interesting to note that Bo Katan also mistranslated the Mando'a though!

Bo-Katan Kryze read the plaque to Din Djarin, she misread "Mandalore the Great defeated and rode the mythical beast" as "Mandalore the Great is said to have tamed the mythical beast."

Is she doing this accidentally? Intentionally? Continuity error of the writer? No clue...

[Tamer]

It would be interesting to see him use the Mythrosaur in battle. A lot of folks want Bo to be Djinn's love interest, but not me. I too think there is a jealousy thing there.

[DarthHawk]

I don't see any Beskar Boinking happening between these two.

I'll be very surprised if in the end Mandalore's not resurrected
and Bo Katan takes her rightful place of leadership and begins
what she hopes will be the restoration of the Mando's to their
former glory.
The Mythasaur??? I can't get a firm hold on how I think the beast
will factor into the Mando storyline. That's definitely a cranial conundrum
for me.

[Darth More]

It would be interesting to see him use the Mythrosaur in battle. A lot of folks want Bo to be Djinn's love interest, but not me. I too think there is a jealousy thing there.

Agreed. One mustn't forget that she wanted to kill Mando when she saw his Starfighter landing at her base a second time. Good for her it was just Grogu. I can definitely see second thoughts in her. The way she asked Mando in today's episode definitely implies that she wants to gain back power and likely wants to have power over the Mythosaur as well. Doesn't look like she wants him to know about what she saw under water. That dogfight with those TIE Interceptor was something else. I honestly cannot see how they survived so many of them. It was nice to see Coruscant and I especially liked the return of the theater scene of Revenge of the Sith. It probably took 2/3 of this episode, which is the longest one so far with almost 55 minutes play time. But the pacing just made me tired. It felt very much like ANDOR. I mean seeing Coruscant in more depth feels great and we don't really have an antagonist in this season, yet (except for that Turtlesaur), but those dialogues felt flat. This episode just felt off and weird to me. Don't see the point of the scientist join the New Republic. What I do like though is how the episode shows that the New Republic is a dictatorship on its own.

Add: I almost forgot to ask: Are you also looking forward to buying Star Wars Cookies and Popsicles at Galaxy's Edge and/or the market nearby as much as I am? 

[Tamer]

Just finished the latest episode last night. I thought the same thing about those popsickles. Yep, that was marketing 101 right there.

I felt the same way, I like the episode with Djinn, Bo, and Grogu, but was left feeling a little flat on how our good mad scientist was double crossed and mind wiped. I guess they are trying to set the stage for the next big baddy, but man it felt like they could have done that stuff a lot quicker. Pretty cool seeing the derelict Stat Destroyer. Wish that had done the one shot in the concept art with all those SDers sitting in the scrap lines.

It will be interesting to see what mischief Bo gets into with the Mandos now that she has been accepted into the clan. I kinda have a feeling they are all gonna have their helmets off by the end of this season.

[DarthHawk]

What can I say???
Started off great! Excellent dog fighting scenes that proved once again
the empire doesn't put any emphasis on spending time at the shooting range.
The ending, necessary and something I should have predicted.
The middle 2 thirds of the episode??? HO HUM. Boring and seemed to be unnecessary
or filler flop. I'm sure we will experience the necessity of that snooze fest but I agree with DM.
I wanted to take a nap.

[Tamer]

Yeah she will turn out to be a deep agent working with Thrawn or Palleon or someone. Knowing Faveraux he will do it right. Still, it took awhile for it to fill in and I don't see them killing him as they would still need him for his cloning knowledge after they get Grogu back.

[DarthHawk]

A triumphant return to the series. It's nice to see this guy get the positive press he deserves.

https://www.starwars.com/news/ahmed-best-the-mandalorian-interview

[DarthHawk]

One third of the latest episode was EXCELLENT!!!!!!!!!!
The beginning and the ending were good and provided insight to the Mandalorian lifestyle
that I found really interesting.

The middle of the show was WOWZAAAA!! Grogu's rescue was depicted perfectly.
I can't help but wonder though why so much significance is placed on saving Grogu
and the rest of the younglings were left to be slaughtered.

Obviously there are more Jedi than we thought that survived order 66. Can't help but
wonder where they went and what they were doing around the galaxy after the takeover
by the empire.

What I enjoyed the most were the production values. This scene was classic Star Wars.
The directing, costuming and story line is straight out of the mind of George Lucas.
Took me back to the days of the original trilogy.
Will we see more Jedi as this show unfolds?? HMMMMMMMM.

[JDeck]

Everybody wants to see Bo Katan as the Mandalore. I thlink she had her chance, and she blew it.  Grogu will  tame the Mythosur like the Mudhorn, The Rancor. Bo will be an afterthought. And of course she won't like it.  Eventually Din and Bo will fight it out.

[Tamer]

I just asked my daughter last night how they can do so well for the Mandalorian and give us such "insert your own expletive" for the other stuff. Frankly just put Faveraux in charge of Lucasfilm and any movie or new tv show and done.

Loved the lore. Kinda bummed we didn't see a Grogu beskar or bucket or something, but I know he is still growing. Loved learning and seeing more of the Mando community. Really wondering about the bucket on all the time mythos though. I mean you can't even eat in the same place? Why is it so important to not see the person's face? So Paz Vizla never gets to see his son's face again?

Small beef though. When I saw their jet packs dieing I was like why did no one chase it in a starfighter. Bo is smart. She ain't gonna go down lightly. I loved hearing her talk about the mythrosaur with the Armorer. We are gonna see that beasty again. Man, fingers crossed for a Hasbro Mythrosaur HasLab. Probably would never happen though, but man think of the unlocks they could do!

[RC-1136]

There's just so much to unpack in this episode. We got to see Zeb from Rebels! Really cool. Loved seeing Ahmed Bests' Jedi character. Really hope he survived Order 66 but I doubt it. This series continues to both fascinate and entertain me.