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Re: New York Toy Fair 2012
« Reply #45 on: February 14, 2012, 03:50:24 PM »
Wow Pat, that was pretty poignant if you ask me. Fine points if I do say so.

I will be honest, for where I am at with my collecting both with room and money, I find it nice that there have only been a few figures and vehicles here and there that I have wanted. I am having more enjoyment now finding figures and items for my friends I have made here and there over the years. This gives me the chance to focus on other areas of SW Collecting such as GG (which Pat got me into) and Sideshow so I don't break the bank like I used too.

I love hearing everyone's points and hope everyone continues to give them.

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Re: New York Toy Fair 2012
« Reply #46 on: February 14, 2012, 04:31:00 PM »

Well, while there were some nice looking figures, such as the TOR Republic Soldier, Bespin Leia, and realistic Asoka, there were only a few newer figures.  In the grand scheme of things, it'll be a ton of repacks, repaints, and rehashes again.  For me, that means looking a lot less for things, because even if they DO make it retail (which most will not due to distribution issues that have never been addressed or solved), they'll be short packed and snatched up.  With that said, there really are just so many characters in the SW universe, and only so many that can be made.  I'd like to see some more obscure characters made, but that's just me.  I'd even like seeing a larger variety of soldiers for army builders, such as different ethnic varieties of human soldiers and different armor variations of soldiers.  The figures that people do want, such as the ARC Troopers and such, are short packed and not revisited, while we get yet another Luke in X-Wing pilot gear.  The vehicles are uninspiring because they're all repacks.  Many of them didn't sell well the first time around, and aren't likely to do so again.  The MTT, while cool to a degree, I just don't see many children wanting that because it's not very recognizable except for those of us who are very familiar with TPM.

That's a very good point and is the main reason my vintage purchases have been so few and far between, Really if it's the same fig I already have and only has some minor tweek (Jango fett comes to mind on this one) there is no point in picking it up, same with MU and GI Joe IMO (PS Joe has been worse than SW the past few years, but this year I thought they did better).

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It seems to me, based on the press release they sent out, combined with what was shown, that they're still looking for gimmicks for little kids, such as those PODS and AMP'D things, as well as accessories and non-action figure based toys.  Sure, they'll sell for one year, but there isn't any staying power in them.  I've spoken to friends who have children, and it's been the same story for years: They won't buy 2 Darth Vaders a year, every year.  Children are not, and have never, driven this market.  It's the collectors who want to see something new and exciting every year that are left out in the cold.  Every year, more and more of us leave the hobby because there isn't anything there that makes us want to stay in the game.  I collected, well more played with the toys, when I was a kid, and have been collecting since 1995.  However, I don't think I bought more than $100 worth of stuff in 2011, and the stuff I really wanted, I never saw at retail one time.  There just isn't anything out there that I've seen that makes me want to go out on the old Star Wars hunts of travelling to 3 Walmarts, 3 Targets, 2 Meijers, and a Toys R Us in a day in hopes of finding that one exciting item. 


I know some peple who would argue with you about the kids, but I think you are dead on the money with that, I've hardly ever seen kids in the toy isles and when I do it's pretty surpirzing. 

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For me, what is exciting, is the new Marvel Universe items.  Sure, they use a lot of the same molds, but they put out many, many new figures yearly.  Even better, they put out some obscure figures every year as well, ones that comic book nerds like me never expect, which is thrilling.


Ah a fellow convert into the ranks of MU, but I will point out that they stand to ruin this line with rehashes of Wolvie, Iron Man, ext.  Still it's nice to see Darkhawk or Nova keeping the line fresh.   

In closing, well said.

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Re: New York Toy Fair 2012
« Reply #47 on: February 14, 2012, 04:32:18 PM »
Well, I know I do come across as regularly negative of Hasbro, so FlaccidEagle's request for clarification was absolutely just and I was very glad to provide my take on things. 

Oh, and Shawn: You're welcome!  Enjoy those Gentle Giant pieces!  You're in some big trouble if Sideshow ever releases ESB items (instead of the myriad of damn clones they keep putting out.)!

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Re: New York Toy Fair 2012
« Reply #48 on: February 14, 2012, 05:17:55 PM »
Well, I know I do come across as regularly negative of Hasbro, so FlaccidEagle's request for clarification was absolutely just and I was very glad to provide my take on things. 


I come down on them too a lot.  It's just this toy fair felt a little different than years past, with a lot of stuff people have been asking for.  the big question, which you put very awesomely, is: can I buy them?  Will I see them on the shelf?  TVC is hit by so many scalpers and resellers it is ridiculous.  And the people who keep swapping figures at retail is just ridiculous.  Buying cases online, then buying some more at retail, then returning the extras/repacks at the retail store.  That to me is quite the huge problem right there.  I only buy at retail or our friend Tongue Hory because it's just feeding the problem to buy from others online.

I do hear you on the repacks though.  While I think the good shown outweighs the bad, it is quite disappointing to see so many useless reissues.  Why not reissue stuff like Bespin Luke?  What about the KOTOR figures?  Clone multipacks?  Stormtrooper multipacks?  Kids want the exact same stuff as collectors 99.9% of the time in my experience.  Stuff that makes sense!  Not the 2005 Vader.  Not the 1999 Anakins.

Thanks for elaborating so well on the subject.

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Re: New York Toy Fair 2012
« Reply #49 on: February 14, 2012, 08:12:15 PM »
Anytime!  Always fun to engage in discussions like this.

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Re: New York Toy Fair 2012
« Reply #50 on: February 15, 2012, 06:57:08 PM »
Our friends at Yakface got word today that Hasbro is not releasing the Presentation Slides so our High Rez Gallery is all they are releasing now.

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Re: New York Toy Fair 2012
« Reply #51 on: February 15, 2012, 11:24:29 PM »
hmmmm.... i wonder why .....
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Re: New York Toy Fair 2012
« Reply #52 on: February 18, 2012, 05:10:50 PM »
I forgot to post here today, but our friends from JTA have loaded up the audio from the Hasbro Presentations. Its on the top of the front page now if you want to listen.

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Re: New York Toy Fair 2012
« Reply #53 on: February 18, 2012, 05:49:54 PM »
I am really looking forward for the new Vintage figures to come out and I will be keeping most of them carded.

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Re: New York Toy Fair 2012
« Reply #54 on: February 19, 2012, 11:34:05 AM »
I forgot to post here today, but our friends from JTA have loaded up the audio from the Hasbro Presentations. Its on the top of the front page now if you want to listen.

I'm going to check this out tonight.
I'm really surprised as they usually release the slideshow right away... huh.

And Tamer I think I now agree with you on the Tarkin soft goods.  The more I look at it, the worse it is.  They do look a little iffy... like it's too thin.
Hopefully the production figure will look better.

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Re: New York Toy Fair 2012
« Reply #55 on: February 28, 2012, 09:53:40 AM »
Can anyone find pics of the carbonite chamber battle pack that is coming out this year???

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Re: New York Toy Fair 2012
« Reply #56 on: February 29, 2012, 11:04:01 AM »
The whole presentation has now gone online:

http://forum.starwars-figuren.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=115

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Re: New York Toy Fair 2012
« Reply #57 on: February 29, 2012, 09:13:06 PM »
AAARRRGGG!!! I was hoping we were going to get a new Boba Fett in that Bespin pack. It looks like a 300th POTJ Boba Fett with maybe a larger head sculpt. Very disappointing.  >:(

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Re: New York Toy Fair 2012
« Reply #58 on: March 01, 2012, 08:24:52 AM »
AAARRRGGG!!! I was hoping we were going to get a new Boba Fett in that Bespin pack. It looks like a 300th POTJ Boba Fett with maybe a larger head sculpt. Very disappointing.  >:(

I thought the same thing too. New head and thats about it. That paint job on Luke's hair in that pack looks awful.

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Re: New York Toy Fair 2012
« Reply #59 on: March 01, 2012, 01:37:46 PM »
Hasbro officially released the SW Hasbro Presentation today and there is a gallery now up for your viewing pleasure:

http://www.imperialshipyards.net/Galleries/%e2%97%a6nytf-2012-hasbro-star-wars-presentation